Otra entrevista a ALFRED GOUGH
Publicado: Mié Feb 07, 2007 3:12 am
While many genre shows have come and gone over the past six years, SMALLVILLE has proven to be the little show that could. Now in its sixth season, the series is as creatively strong as it has ever been. With original creators Alfred Gough and Miles Millar still at the helm, the show has truly soared the last two years now that Clark Kent has left high school and more of Superman’s comic book legacy has been woven into the show’s mythology.
Last season saw the Phantom Zone make an appearance as part of the season ender, which has resulted in a stunning new season with the release of Zod and other prisoners from the Phantom Zone bringing the series and the movies even more full circle.
At the Winter TCA’s, Gough sat down with iF Magazine for an exclusive one-on-one two-part interview, to discuss the series' continued creative strength, SUPERMAN RETURNS and other projects he and Millar have on the horizon.
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iF MAGAZINE: Will SMALLVILLE be back for another season?
ALFRED GOUGH: Fingers crossed, we have a good feeling about it, but all the back room rumblings are very positive. Our plan is to be back.
iF: The last two seasons have felt more align with the original movies the more and more we get closer to Clark Kent’s true origin. Was that always the plan?
GOUGH: It’s rare I think for a show to have its second wind in the fifth season. The first four seasons were foundation building and we purposely didn’t play with a lot of the toys in the D.C. Comics toy box. We obviously had Perry White in an episode and Flash in an episode. We knew what the end of Season 4 was going to be, the crystal on the tundra, throwing it, so we had the Fortress of Solitude. Obviously we had Lois Lane. I think we felt we had to earn the right to bring these characters in. So what’s nice about it, unlike certain shows that flame out in two seasons, I think we’ve had more of a slow build with Clark out of high school. Now we have the benefit of sticking around by using these D.C. characters.
iF: It’s pretty rare to have a feature film [SUPERMAN RETURNS], while you’re still on TV. When you first started the show, you told me D.C. was nervous about you and Miles dipping into the comic book well too much because of the revisionist SUPERMAN movie in development. Did they get concerned when SUPERMAN RETURNS was finally greenlit since it is more in line with the original films, much like SMALLVILLE is?
GOUGH: The great thing ultimately, was our biggest savior was Bryan Singer. Bryan was a fan of the show. We had a gentleman’s agreement. Miles, myself, Bryan, [SUPERMAN RETURNS scribes] Dan [Harris] and Mike [Dougherty] the writers, we would keep each other in the loop. Bryan invited us down to Australia. We sort of pitched out Season Five. Bryan offered to let us read the script and we said “well, quite frankly we don’t want that responsibility. But you tell us if any of this is conflicting or things that are not going to jive and things you want us to stay away from.” For a television show, you have that flexibility. And it was a great working relationship. Before that, when it was the McG version of the movie and it was another origin story and Krypton didn’t blow up, and Lex Luthor was a Kryptonian -- there was a year there where it was very tough, in that weird kind of way. We were in the weird position of arguing 60 years of comics history to them, where they were willing to have a planet where Superman is on Earth but Krypton still existed. It was bizarre. Thankfully Bryan came in and said, I don’t want to do SMALLVILLE, I want to do a SUPERMAN movie, and he did SUPERMAN RETURNS.
iF: What did you think of the movie?
GOUGH: I enjoyed the movie a lot. I think that airplane sequence is great. I thought Brandon did a very good job. I like Kevin Spacey. Doing the show every week is a little weird and it’s a little weird to watch the movie, because to me Lex was a bit of a hybrid of [Michael] Rosenbaum and Gene Hackman. Some times he was really vicious and other times he was sort of goofy. All and all I enjoyed the movie, I think Bryan clearly has great affection for the character and I’m looking forward to the sequel, because in a weird way, he did another origin story. Now that’s all sort of been set up, I’m curious to see them bring in a villain that’s not Lex Luthor and curious to see where they take that “Superman has a son thing,” which was a huge thing and very daring. There are a lot of places to go with that story and I’m curious to see what they do.
iF:Did anything from the new SUPERMAN movie inform SMALLVILLE?
GOUGH: No. We’ve been saying that our character is pre-SUPERMAN 1 and that movie is post SUPERMAN II. So in a way it’s too far down the road. I think it was a really satisfying movie experience. It’s interesting to see how different they did things too. Our X-Ray vision looks more like X-Ray’s and his looks more like an MRI. I thought the flying is spectacular, but we can’t afford to do it. We did it once, which I thought looked great.
iF:What should we expect from the rest of the season?
GOUGH: What you’re going to see is a convergence of the JUSTICE LEAGUE, the 33.1 story and the Phantom Zone. All those sort of storylines will start to come together toward the end of the season.
iF: Any possibilities of spinning off any other characters from SMALLVILLE.
GOUGH: They seem to be content with SMALLVILLE, but if you’re going to do any spin-off, you would do Green Arrow. Justin is such a TV star.
iF: You always come up with these great season enders? Do you always know where you're going?
GOUGH: We always know where we’re heading, always, not necessary the season finale. We knew at the end of 4 he goes back and we knew at the end of 5, Zod gets out of the Phantom Zone, and we know what the end of Seasont 6 is, in a very rough form until we get to the end of the episode. There’s so many moving parts, there are certain changes as you go along. The rebound is, you don’t want to get too locked into things that you can’t change if they’re not working. There’s always a sort of fluidness to TV shows. We also tend to have the first half the season more fully formed in our heads than the second half, because you don’t know how the first half is going to play and you don’t know what surprises come to you. Certainly one of the great surprises of the season, was how well the Oliver Queen/Green Arrow character worked. You hope it works, you hope they have chemistry and blend seamlessly in the cast and Justin [Hartley] hit it out of the park. It’s good when you leave the audience wanting more.
iF: Will he be back?
GOUGH:He definitely will be back by Season’s end. Martian Manhunter will be back.
iF:And SMALLVILLE should be back for a Seventh Season as well.
GOUGH: We better be, otherwise it’s going to be one hell of a cliffhanger, that you never see paid off.
La segunda parte para la semana que viene.
PD: Quien pueda traducirlo, se lo agradecería, ya que es muy larga y bueno sé que toma mucho tiempo.
Last season saw the Phantom Zone make an appearance as part of the season ender, which has resulted in a stunning new season with the release of Zod and other prisoners from the Phantom Zone bringing the series and the movies even more full circle.
At the Winter TCA’s, Gough sat down with iF Magazine for an exclusive one-on-one two-part interview, to discuss the series' continued creative strength, SUPERMAN RETURNS and other projects he and Millar have on the horizon.
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iF MAGAZINE: Will SMALLVILLE be back for another season?
ALFRED GOUGH: Fingers crossed, we have a good feeling about it, but all the back room rumblings are very positive. Our plan is to be back.
iF: The last two seasons have felt more align with the original movies the more and more we get closer to Clark Kent’s true origin. Was that always the plan?
GOUGH: It’s rare I think for a show to have its second wind in the fifth season. The first four seasons were foundation building and we purposely didn’t play with a lot of the toys in the D.C. Comics toy box. We obviously had Perry White in an episode and Flash in an episode. We knew what the end of Season 4 was going to be, the crystal on the tundra, throwing it, so we had the Fortress of Solitude. Obviously we had Lois Lane. I think we felt we had to earn the right to bring these characters in. So what’s nice about it, unlike certain shows that flame out in two seasons, I think we’ve had more of a slow build with Clark out of high school. Now we have the benefit of sticking around by using these D.C. characters.
iF: It’s pretty rare to have a feature film [SUPERMAN RETURNS], while you’re still on TV. When you first started the show, you told me D.C. was nervous about you and Miles dipping into the comic book well too much because of the revisionist SUPERMAN movie in development. Did they get concerned when SUPERMAN RETURNS was finally greenlit since it is more in line with the original films, much like SMALLVILLE is?
GOUGH: The great thing ultimately, was our biggest savior was Bryan Singer. Bryan was a fan of the show. We had a gentleman’s agreement. Miles, myself, Bryan, [SUPERMAN RETURNS scribes] Dan [Harris] and Mike [Dougherty] the writers, we would keep each other in the loop. Bryan invited us down to Australia. We sort of pitched out Season Five. Bryan offered to let us read the script and we said “well, quite frankly we don’t want that responsibility. But you tell us if any of this is conflicting or things that are not going to jive and things you want us to stay away from.” For a television show, you have that flexibility. And it was a great working relationship. Before that, when it was the McG version of the movie and it was another origin story and Krypton didn’t blow up, and Lex Luthor was a Kryptonian -- there was a year there where it was very tough, in that weird kind of way. We were in the weird position of arguing 60 years of comics history to them, where they were willing to have a planet where Superman is on Earth but Krypton still existed. It was bizarre. Thankfully Bryan came in and said, I don’t want to do SMALLVILLE, I want to do a SUPERMAN movie, and he did SUPERMAN RETURNS.
iF: What did you think of the movie?
GOUGH: I enjoyed the movie a lot. I think that airplane sequence is great. I thought Brandon did a very good job. I like Kevin Spacey. Doing the show every week is a little weird and it’s a little weird to watch the movie, because to me Lex was a bit of a hybrid of [Michael] Rosenbaum and Gene Hackman. Some times he was really vicious and other times he was sort of goofy. All and all I enjoyed the movie, I think Bryan clearly has great affection for the character and I’m looking forward to the sequel, because in a weird way, he did another origin story. Now that’s all sort of been set up, I’m curious to see them bring in a villain that’s not Lex Luthor and curious to see where they take that “Superman has a son thing,” which was a huge thing and very daring. There are a lot of places to go with that story and I’m curious to see what they do.
iF:Did anything from the new SUPERMAN movie inform SMALLVILLE?
GOUGH: No. We’ve been saying that our character is pre-SUPERMAN 1 and that movie is post SUPERMAN II. So in a way it’s too far down the road. I think it was a really satisfying movie experience. It’s interesting to see how different they did things too. Our X-Ray vision looks more like X-Ray’s and his looks more like an MRI. I thought the flying is spectacular, but we can’t afford to do it. We did it once, which I thought looked great.
iF:What should we expect from the rest of the season?
GOUGH: What you’re going to see is a convergence of the JUSTICE LEAGUE, the 33.1 story and the Phantom Zone. All those sort of storylines will start to come together toward the end of the season.
iF: Any possibilities of spinning off any other characters from SMALLVILLE.
GOUGH: They seem to be content with SMALLVILLE, but if you’re going to do any spin-off, you would do Green Arrow. Justin is such a TV star.
iF: You always come up with these great season enders? Do you always know where you're going?
GOUGH: We always know where we’re heading, always, not necessary the season finale. We knew at the end of 4 he goes back and we knew at the end of 5, Zod gets out of the Phantom Zone, and we know what the end of Seasont 6 is, in a very rough form until we get to the end of the episode. There’s so many moving parts, there are certain changes as you go along. The rebound is, you don’t want to get too locked into things that you can’t change if they’re not working. There’s always a sort of fluidness to TV shows. We also tend to have the first half the season more fully formed in our heads than the second half, because you don’t know how the first half is going to play and you don’t know what surprises come to you. Certainly one of the great surprises of the season, was how well the Oliver Queen/Green Arrow character worked. You hope it works, you hope they have chemistry and blend seamlessly in the cast and Justin [Hartley] hit it out of the park. It’s good when you leave the audience wanting more.
iF: Will he be back?
GOUGH:He definitely will be back by Season’s end. Martian Manhunter will be back.
iF:And SMALLVILLE should be back for a Seventh Season as well.
GOUGH: We better be, otherwise it’s going to be one hell of a cliffhanger, that you never see paid off.
La segunda parte para la semana que viene.
PD: Quien pueda traducirlo, se lo agradecería, ya que es muy larga y bueno sé que toma mucho tiempo.