10x21-22 FINALE Spoilers, teorías, posibles argumentos

[spidermin]

bueno se acabo smallville como ha comentado toei la primera parte un poco rollo pero el final ha sido intenso, aunqeu muy rapido todo (lo esperaba) de todas maneras a sido un bonito final. esa cloe contandole a su hijo la historia de superman y se da cuenta que su padre es un heroe flecha verde y su madre amiga de superman. y lo del final muy bonito y emocionante alineando la mitologia. tenian que haber puesto 30 minutos mas para acabarlo del todo bien. lo han acabado demasiado rapido pero en fin sera por el presupuesto.

gracias a todo el equipo por el trabajo de estos 10 años un saludo ojala hagan un spin off y sigamos comentando por aqui.

[kal-el_2.9]

que quieren que diga el finbal me quedo con gusto a poco aunque no entendi mucho el ingles para ser sinceros jaja

[toei]

que quieren que diga el finbal me quedo con gusto a poco aunque no entendi mucho el ingles para ser sinceros jaja

creo que no te has perdido mucho fue gran prosa, lo unico que como simpre digo me llama la atencion es lex, siempre te quedas pensando, paraeciera que todo lo tuviera planeado, ahora que veo gracias a lex me intrigaba la serie, hoy revivio eso me parece

[kal-el_2.9]

que quieren que diga el finbal me quedo con gusto a poco aunque no entendi mucho el ingles para ser sinceros jaja

creo que no te has perdido mucho fue gran prosa, lo unico que como simpre digo me llama la atencion es lex, siempre te quedas pensando, paraeciera que todo lo tuviera planeado, ahora que veo gracias a lex me intrigaba la serie, hoy revivio eso me parece

en todo caso tienes razon aun cuando no logre entender lo que dijo me recuerdo que me encantaban esas freases de lex siempre me dejaban con algo dando vuelta

me encantaba esa de no hieras lo que no puedes matar sabes ya que todo acabo y ya no queda mucho por hacer podriamos tratar de buscar la frase que mas nos haya gustado de toda la serie y hacer algun post con ellas

[Svmarines]

un vid del cap lo pongo como spoler por si alguien no vio el cap todavia y no kiere saber

[youtube]http://youtu.be/HEqwjPj4itI[/youtube]

[angelus_vamp77]

Lo más bueno que hicieron para la season finale fue poner el tema de superman... jejejeje...
Por lo demás, un buen final... de paso manteniendo el típico final a los que nos tienen acostumbrados: apurados, sin muchas explicaciones o con explicaciones demasiado fáciles

La forma en que Tess le borra la memoria a Luthor... O SEA!!! si pueden hacer eso, a ver si descubren la cura pa'l cancer.. digo, no?

Por lo demás (y como ven me mantengo en spoiler)
- la escena más enternecedora: el abrazo de los Kent
- la escena más emocionante: cuando Jonathan le entrega el traje a Clark (casi lloro jajajajaja)
- la escena más decepcionante: cuando Superman (siiiiii) aleja Apokolips de la tierra... ni se lo ve!!
- la escena más decepcionante 2: la "derrota" de Darkseid, aunque al estar en un "envase" (jejejeje) humano, como que se entiende y se justifica.. pero igual decepciona...
- la escena más enternecedora 2: la lectura de los votos (Lois en el Planeta, Clark en la puerta del depar de Lois)
- la escena que se roba el capítulo: Lois mirando a Clark... perdon... a Superman... digo, la famosa escena del avión!!!... por favor!!!... es lo máximo... jejejejeje

En fin... he tratado de no criticar "destructivamente" el capítulo porque sí tuvo sus lados feos, lentos, malos... pero por lo demás fue un buen final.... no muy bueno, no excelente... solo bueno.... Valió la pena esperar 10 años para este final?... No... hubiera valido la pena si nunca hubiesen sacado las temporadas 6, 7 y 8?... Por supuesto que sí!!!... jejejeje

Muchas gracias nuevamente equipo huesariano por 10 años de trabajo y esfuerzo desinteresado... no me canso de decirlo: SON LO MAXIMO... mil gracias....
(ahora a esperarlo en blu jejejeje)....

[clarkandloisgirl]

ya esta, se terminó... a mi el capi me ha gustado,a mi parecer ha habido momentos que han sabido a poco, pero tambien, grandes momentos que compensaron a los anteriores...
gracias a todos por haber convertido mi experiencia viendo smallville en algo inolvidable; yo no he comentado mucho, pero desde que me registre os he leido y sinceramente me habeis alegrado muchos dias, gracias a huesario he podido sobrevivir a las esperas entre capitulo y capitulo(y en los parones y entre temporada y temporada )... gracias por todo vuestro esfuerzo y trabajo, por habernos facilitado los capitulos con subtitulos con tanta rapidez y por mantenernos siempre informados... gracias por ser simplemente los mejores... sinceramente os voy a extrañar mucho!!
GRACIAS

[Shelby]

- Final de 'Smallville' finale: Lee los votos de boda de Clark y Lois's wedding (Zap-2-it):

Final de 'Smallville' finale: Lee los votos de boda de Clark y Lois's wedding
Por Carina Adly MacKenzie 13 de Mayo, 2011 11:25 PM ET

Los fans de "Smallville" han estado anticipando la boda de Lois y Clark durante la mayor parte de la temporada final -- pero nunca les vimos finalmente decir el "Sí quiero" en el evento del final de temporada del viernes por la noche, titulado simplemente, "Finale." Deafortunadamente, cuando eres un superhéroe, salvar el mundo incluso puede truncar tu propia boda.

Pero con suerte, conseguimos tener la oportunidad de escuchar tanto a Lois (Erica Durance) y a Clark (Tom Welling) decir sus votos, lo que fue increíblemente especial, particularmente porque sin esos votos, nuestro destinado dúo puede que nunca hubieran ido finalmente al altar. (Ingnoraremos sólo la parte en donde les ha llevado casi siete años el ir allí.)

Clark es, como siempre, confidente en sus sentimientos por Lois. Sus votos son los que siguen.

"Yo, Clark Kent, te tomo a tí, Lois Lane, para ser mi compañera, para siempre. Contigo a mi lado nunca estaré solo. Aunque el mundo te vea como una mujer fuerte e independiente, nunca he conocido a nadie con tanta dulzura y un corazón más puro. Cuando estuve perdido siempre has estado ahí para traerme de vuelta, así es que en este día, en este momento, entrego el resto de mi vida a tí. Siempre creíste en mí, y yo creo en tí. Cuando crees en alguien no es durante un minuto, o sólo por ahora, es para siempre."

Siempre la perfeccionista, Lois corrigió en rojo su camino hacia sus votos. Y, por supuesto, permaneció sincera a quien siempre ha sido -- la hija del General.

"Quería que estos votos fueran perfectos, pero la perfección es algo difícil de conseguir. Pero la vida está destinada a ser un poco desordenada, y cuando se refiere al amor creo que es como mi padre siempre decía sobre el ejército: Sólo te alistas si es la única cosa que jamás puedes imaginar el estar haciendo. Clark, no puedo imaginar el pasar ni un sólo momento de mi vida sin tí. Prometo que siempre te apoyaré, igual que tú siempre me apoyarás. Eres mi mejor amigo, eres mi hogar, y eres mi verdadero amor, y soy tuya y lo seré para siempre."

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox ... -vows.html

- ‘Smallville’: Los gurús de los efectos visuales que hicieron a Clark súper (herocomplex.latimes.com):

‘Smallville’: Los gurús de los efectos visuales que hicieron a Clark súper (herocomplex.latimes.com)
Por Jevon Phillips 13 de Mayo, 2011 | 7:31 p.m.




We’ve heard from the main star of “Smallville,” Tom Welling, producers and even a few heroes (Eric Martsolf and Justin Hartley), but the people that make the show fly — the visual effects team — are also closing a chapter in their lives.

For Entity FX, the visual effects company that has crafted everything from a Metropolis skyline to the expression of Clark Kent’s powers since the second season, it’s a bittersweet ending.

“We did 4,500 visual effects shots across 195 episodes … It was one of the longest-running vfx-centered shows ever. Longer than ‘X-Files,’ ‘Twilight Zone,’ ‘Lost,’ ‘Buffy’ and a whole bunch of others,” said Mat Beck, senior visual effects supervisor of Entity FX.

The show not only taxed them creatively, it also expanded their respect and knowledge of the Man of Steel.

“Over the years, I’ve definitely grown to have much more of an appreciation for it and learned a lot more. Of course, now I feel like I’ve made a mark in history since I’ve contributed to the way those effects are viewed by some individuals,” said Trent Smith, senior visual effects producer of Entity FX.

“I don’t know that this is the first show that’s ever combined teen angst with being a superhero, but it certainly did the most exploration into that. Superman‘s a more rich and complex and conflicted character than I was used to growing up as a kid,” said Beck.

“Smallville’s” look often has a cinematic quality, a mini-movie each week, and those responsible for it know the demands that come from producing a show like this. The company, Beck said, had to grow in how it did things onscreen as Clark’s powers grew.

“They hadn’t been introduced yet … so while he’s trying to figure out what’s going on, we’re trying to figure out how to do it as well,” said Beck. “The challenge was to come up with something that would withstand the test of time but still be capable of evolving as the needs of the effect change.”

And not only did they have to create a certain look for Clark and his powers, but also for the myriad powers that were presented when different guest stars showed up — as with Impulse and his super speed.

“He was a character that we had to take a look at because he moves just as fast as Clark, which we’ve already established a look for, but we wanted it to be different. So, we took our thoughts and our feelings and put it toward what we thought would be the different attributes you’d see on screen if you were going this fast. That’s where we developed something more like a fire trail coming off of him because he’s traveling so fast,” said Smith.

“There’s frozen moments when nothing’s moving; and there’s bullet-time in which things are moving very, very slowly. Then there’s ultra high speed in which the camera is moving faster than [Clark] is; and then there’s super speeding, in which he runs so fast that he becomes a blur and the camera’s in normal speed… It’s like writing, in a way. How do we convey to the audience that at this moment, though Clark is moving in slow-motion, he’s actually moving faster than everybody else in the world,” says Beck.

After all of that, the mood at the effects house is similar to that of many on the other side of the camera: It’s been fun.

“I’ll equate it to graduating high school. You’ve enjoyed those years and you’ve learned and you’ve grown, but it’s time to move on and go on to the next challenge. Working a show this long, I know a lot of the people pretty personally, and I expect to continue keeping that relationship with them,” said Smith.

“It’s true. The best part of any working relationship is not just the cool stuff you churn out, it’s the cool people you get to work with,” says Beck. “This has been really, really great, but there’s a whole world of really cool effects to do that don’t involve a kid from Krypton.”

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2011/05/ ... t=63378#/0

- El Gran Final de Smallville (cbswatchmagazine.com):

http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/1hUwXs/cb ... ig-finish/

- Escritores de "Smallville" Dicen Adiós (comicbookresources.com):

Escritores de "Smallville" Dicen Adiós
Por Kiel Phegley 13 de Mayo, 2011

Tonight, ten years of waiting comes to an end when The CW's "Smallville" wraps its network run with a two-hour finale (hopefully) featuring the ascension of Superman on the small screen. The final episode caps 217 hours of superhero drama on TV, an improbable milestone that saw "Smallville" shift from teenage monster-fighting series to epic DC Universe continuity-fest. To celebrate, CBR News reached out to a trio of writers who have each had their own impact on the show's run from start to finish to get their take on how "Smallville" has survived so long and what it's run means for superhero TV.

Michael Green was one of the original writers on "Smallville" when it started its run on The WB back in 2001. In its first year, Green helped pen formative episodes like "Cool," "Craving" and "Nicodemus." Since then, he's gone on to many more comics related projects including a stint as a writer on NBC's "Heroes," the co-writer of this summer's "Green Lantern" screenplay and as a comics writer of titles like "Superman/Batman." Jeph Loeb's work is no stranger to comic fans, but aside from writing books including "Superman For All Seasons" and "Superman/Batman," the current head of Marvel Television wrote some of the earliest fan-favorite episodes including the character-turning "Red." And finally Bryan Q. Miller has been a welcome addition both to the later seasons of "Smallville" as a writer of episodes like "Hex" and this season's alternate reality "Luthor" and as the comic scribe behind DC's acclaimed "Batgirl."

Below, all three writers offer up their thoughts on the show's past success and future influence. From the episodes where they contributed most to the mythology to the DCU guest stars that never made it to the screen and from the difference the early seasons had to hold to the impact the ten-year run will have on superhero TV moving forward, the writers behind the show cover everything "Smallville" before Clark Kent takes the cape of Superman.

CBR News: So "Smallville" is wrapping this week after ten years. That accomplishment is more astonishing every time I say it out loud. As a writer for the show, did you have any inkling that the concept of a young Clark Kent would have so much life in it on TV when you first started working with the team?

Jeph Loeb: No, I don't think any of us did. It was such a miracle, right from the pilot, seeing this show that Al Gough and Miles Millar have so generously spoken of "Superman For All Seasons" as one of their inspirations for the series. Such a great cast, crew and writing staff.

Michael Green: I came on just when the pilot was picked up and worked on the first season. We felt very grateful that we got to play with the greatest comic book character out there and felt grateful to be the custodians of a mythology that people are so emotionally attached to. But also, we were very grateful that this was a version of the mythology that Al Gough and Mies Millar put together that was so fruitful. That pilot put so many worms on the table that could wriggle around forever, and it was just too much fun to do that job and get paid for it.

It was a great group of writers. Over time that room has had a lot more writers and incredibly talented people season after season, and the amazing thing is that with each new season, those writers came in and did different things. What we focused on in the first year – mostly on the WB's request – was standalone "Monster of the Week" stuff. We wanted to do a lot of serialized stuff, and knew that would be the reward for sticking it out. It was great to see the show evolve into something that was serialized and took on much larger arcs. That is what I think kept it so energized for so long – the big stories, mythologies and bad guys that played out episode after episode.

Bryan Q. Miller: I came on in Season Five, so it had already proven to have legs. I honestly don't think anyone was expecting over 100 MORE episodes at that point, however. 218 total. Pretty awesome.

During your time on the series, what was it that made the show connect with you creatively? In other words, what was the core component of the "Smallville" world that you were interested most in playing with?

Green: The world of Smallville was always really intriguing because it was this microcosm where the whole town was a school where Clark could learn how to be this man we all know he's going to grow up to be. What was most fun for me was playing with a Clark who was not yet that man – he wasn't brave, he wasn't strong, and he wasn't wise. He hadn't learned yet the values that were going to make him Superman. It was the ongoing process of teaching him to be that guy. It was really seeing him in his formative years and watching him get molded by experience, by friendship, by trust and mistrust to become Superman.

Loeb: The relationships were things I understood -- so much of it for me was about a boy growing up and not understanding his world or what was happening to him and how Clark related to Jonathan and Martha. And then later, the fun and savvy wit that Erica brought to the show as Lois.

Miller: It was Clark Kent and the long march up that hill to becoming Superman. Also, the challenge of finding ways to translate DCU characters to fit the world of the show. Wildcat and The Question (both versions) came up CONSTANTLY...from me. So did Lobo. There's so many more that we never had a chance to introduce to the world. Even a best-selling comic (at best) only hits 100k readers a month – the show reached (per Nielsen) around a million and a half screens per WEEK. Sometimes more. "Smallville" is/was a great tool for expanding the DC brand to viewers who don't follows comics.

Do you have a personal highlight from one of the episodes you wrote, either on screen or behind the scenes?

Loeb: I got all the good stuff. I got to introduce red kryptonite in "Red" and then have Clark (almost) leap a tall building in a single bound in "Insurgence" while seeing the Daily Planet Globe for the first time. Lois' entrance into the series. As a writer, as a producer, as a comic book fan – it was a very special time.

Miller: "Committed" is, was and forever will be my first and favorite script of the bunch. It and "Luthor" were the two that stayed closest to my original drafts throughout the production process, so I'm very close to both of those. But as for moments? The Clark/Lois elevator scene at the end of "Committed." That the soup can gag and Lois' closet full of costumes survived not being cut throughout prep and production on "Warrior." Not only having the chance to write one of the darkest things I've ever written in Zod's murder of Faora (in "Sacrifice"), but being able to be on set the day it shot to see just how fantastic Callum and Sharon were, over and over and over again. And, of course, getting Clark into glasses by the end of "Masquerade."

Green: There's so much stuff that we all contributed and that we were so proud of. I could take ownership of a particular line or a moment, but they wouldn't have been there without the conversations beforehand.

On the flip side, do you have a favorite moment on the show that you didn't craft directly? What was it and why did it stick with you?

Loeb: Everything everybody else did. It was my first live action TV show as writer and producer. The writing staff was awesome -- from Al and Miles, to Mark Verheiden to Todd Slavkin/Darren Swimmer to Kelly Souders/Brian Peterson to Steve DeKnight to Caroline Dries -- we were young and having fun. That group is so talented.

Miller: Hands, down - the dunk tank scene in Facade. It's amazing and angsty and there's Avril Lavigne and it perfectly encapsulates everything that made the show great in the first half of the series. Second to that -- the Homecoming floaty dance, which captures what makes the second half of the series of very lovely.

Overall, "Smallville" seems to have survived so long in part because it was willing to change things about its DNA as the story and cast progressed over the years. These days, the show seems to be built much more so on direct references and characters from the comics than it did in its early, formative seasons. What do you think that comics universe connection means not just for "Smallville" but for the future of comic adaptations on TV? Will we be seeing more shows heavily indebted to the comics before too long, or is this a rare occurrence on that front?

Green: Absolutely. The fan audience out there should realize that they really owe a show like "Smallville" for teaching not just viewers but executives how to appreciate the source material. Early on in "Smallville," we were working with a network and studio who were very supportive and interested...but they didn't really understand what we were doing. They didn't know great villains. They didn't know Darkseid or Brainiac, and if they did, they were scared of them because it sounded too much like comic book stuff and not enough like what they were familiar with. "Smallville" Was really able to bridge that gap and slowly teach them that you didn't have to just do "Monster of the Week" but you were able to take comic book tropes from the Golden Age, Silver Age and Modern Age and tell not only stories that were television friendly but that were modern and relevant. They felt very of the times. "Smallville" kept doing that over and over again in a way that paved the way for shows like "Heroes" and "Lost" and the big movies coming out like "Green Lantern."

I think it's awesome to appreciate the value of the source material. That source material has a nuclear intensity, but it isn't obvious to someone who doesn't have an emotional connection to the source material how it would play on the big screen. I think seeing it work so well on television helped bridge the gap.

Loeb: Every story, every show is unique. Comics are great source material as we will continue see – especially now that I get to do that at Marvel! [Laughs]

Miller: I think, so long as costume is never placed before character, that any mythos has a shot of making it on TV.

Everyone's got their list of things they'd like to see happen by the end of the show. Is there anything in particular you'll be looking forward to in the finale on Friday night?

Loeb: Only that they go out, the way they came in. It was a show that embraced the good in people and weren't afraid to be that way. Tom, Michael, Erica, Kristin, Allison, John, Annette, Glover – that was the cast in my day – were so superb. Up, up and away!

Green: One of the things that's fun about working in television is that you think you know how things are going to end, and then you surprise yourself. I remember talking about it in the room..."Wouldn't it be great to end the show like this?" But it's now nine and a half years later, so the show wants to be something different. I'm just looking forward to being surprised.

Miller: I wouldn't want to spoil what has yet to be spoiled by international commercials for the finale, so you'll just have to wait and see!

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page ... e&id=32327

[ritek76]

Para mí, hubiesen puesto la guinda al pastel si en el momento que Clark aleja la bola de la tierra hubiese sido un estilo a Superman Returns en esta escena, a partir del minuto 00:57 y con la bso de Supermán empezando:

Pero con final felíz y todo el mundo embobado mirando al cielo, claro.

[shellbys]

Yo pienso q despues de haber lanzado el planeta tenia q haber bajado para ser aclamado por la gente pero bueno cada quien tiene su opinion.

[Alvaro]

Menudo truño y aburrimiento la 1ª parte, pero no habia por donde tragarla, que si la boda, que si los votos....dialogos que no tenian que ver nada con la historia, truñazo truñazo.

Ya la segunda mitad fue el extasis, el orgasmo de ver por fin a superman . Creo, y decirme si me equivoco, creo que todo fue montaje las escenas de clark con el traje porque nunca le enfocaron a cuerpo entero, y si lo hicieron fue durante el vuelo y muy rapido, apenas se podia apreciar nada. Cuando estaba en el espacio observando el planeta alejarse solo se veia la capa flotando pero podian haberle sacado el cuerpo entero (lo que me hace supener que Tom no llevaba ni traje ni nada). Me parece Lamentable que se hayan comportado asi con los fans, lo menos que podian hacer es tener una toma de Tom con el traje de verdad en primer plano volando, no es pedir tanto .

A ver si hacen otra peli de Superman y que aparezca Tom, seria una pasada

Fueron 10 años en esta comunidad hasta llegar a este dia, 10 años creciendo, madurando, tragando capitulos y capitulos hasta que llegara este dia.

Solo me quedan agradecimientos a todo el staff de Huesario, desde los que estan a los que no estan, desde el primer foro que se abrió y conoci a los primeros foreros, se os echa de menos y espero que sigamos manteniendo el contacto durante mucho tiempo en estos foros. Muchas gracias a Lore, Shelbi, Ficus y todo el personal que hizo todo esto posible, desde el primer capitulo hasta el dia de hoy, muchas gracias a todos y por supuesto a Huesario que hizo esto posible

un fuerte abrazo a todos, nos vemos pronto

FIN

[Mandy]

Desde que descubrí esta página, aunque no haya participado demasiado he estado leyendo todos vuestros mensajes y comentarios. Acabo de ver el capítulo con vuestros subtítulos y la verdad me ha gustado mucho. Como hemos tenido unos cuantos capítulos de relleno, pues han tenido que condensarlo mucho.
La primera parte ha sido algo lenta. Siento no haber podido ver bien a Superman con el traje. Parece que Tom Welling no quería aparecer con él, lástima.
Solo queda agradecer a todo el equipo la gran labor que habéis hecho con los subtítulos, Shelby con toda la información, Lore, Toei, Bertu con los subtítulos, Ficus et Huesario. MUCHAS GRACIAS

[joseuv27]

pues si señores colorin colorado esto se ha acabado, el final me ha gustado y no me ha gustado, me explico me dio por ver el capitulo en vivo y en directo y vaya sufrimiento que jarta de anuncios ponen estos giris parecía las privadas de aquí jeje, bueno vamos al capitulo empezó muy lento con esto que si me caso o no me caso me parecío algo que no pegaba mucho para el ultimo capitulo de smallville, la boda interruptus estuvo muy bien lo que no entiendo como Cloe se dio cuenta de el aniño de cliptionita dorada pero wueno lo dejaremos como licencia argumental, en los de la novia voladora me hizo gracia jeje, la vuelta de lex estuvo bien aunque estaría mejor si se metiera en la acción del capitulo y no fuera solo una visita estelar y poco mas, la forma de como acaba clark con darkside es un poco simplote debería haber habido mas lucha, las escenas como superman ya fueron muy rapidas y prácticamente no se le vio como superman no se le vio entero, no tendrian mas presupuesto jeje, bueno en fin esto lo que me ha parecido el ultimo capitulo de smallville y nada chico@s esto se acabo y nada ya nos queda ver la serie una y otra vez en nuestros dvds.

un saludo.

[nineu]

La verdad es que aunque me hubiera gustado a ver a Tom realmente enfundado en el traje de Superman y no como un muñequito de Play Mobil en la lejanía , ya me imaginaba que iba a ser algo así.

Creo que el hecho de no verle con el traje no es tanto cuestión de que Tom no quisiera aparecer con mallas, como un asunto de derechos sobre la representación del personaje.

Pero, a parte de eso, debo decir que a mí sí me ha gustado este doble episodio.
Tampoco es cuestión de pedir peras al olmo. En hora y media escasa no se pueden cerrar todas las líneas que habían abierto en la serie y menos aún cerrarla en un próximo futuro como han hecho de una manera bastante digna, a mi modo de ver.
Que ha tenido fallos, seguro. Que nos hubiera gustado ver más Superman, claro. Que nos hemos quedado con ganas de más, pues sí, también. Pero como ya alguien dijo antes que yo, esta serie no era sobre Superman sino sobre como un chaval de otro planeta, criado en un pequeño pueblo de Kansas llega a convertirse en Superman, y eso es lo que hemos tenido. Con capítulos de relleno, con argumentos tontos muchas veces y con momentos muy logrados también.
Pero se acabó.

Ya me gustaría a mí que el final de Smallville supusiera el principio de una nueva serie: Superman , con Tom de protagonista, claro

Y es que una tiene sus debilidades

[Alvaro]

Creo que el hecho de no verle con el traje no es tanto cuestión de que Tom no quisiera aparecer con mallas, como un asunto de derechos sobre la representación del personaje.

Sin acritud pero 5 minutos aunque sea verle con la parte de arriba del traje original y la capa no hace daño tanto a Tom como lo del asunto de derechos. Si ese fuera el caso, 5 minutos por aparecer aunque sea con la parte de arriba y el traje real, no uno cosido de la "abuelita" no hace daño ni seria incomodo para Tom, que sigo sin entender porque no quiere aunque sea enfundarse 5 minutos aunque sea la parte de arriba y la capa. .

Yo si lo haria, me pondria hasta las mallas porque por lo menos si soy yo Tom o los productores tendria ese detalle con los fans tras tragar capitulos de relleno insufribles (no todos) desde la 5ª temporada

Pero vamos, es mi opinion y es como me he sentido

salu2:)